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Plane Cents, LLC
Self Defense

Joseph C. Penaz

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Plane Cents has spent 6 years working on the necessary requirements and jumping through the hoops to become a POST certified Private Investigator and Armed Guard training organization, not an easy challenge. We did it.

We now have some suppressed (silencers) guns on our range.

Why are we so cheap? We do not have a fancy expensive web site I do it myself and it probably shows. This is one of the ways we save cost and pass it to you. Because we do not do this to make a living! I am also retired. PCSD has been here since the beginning 2003, one of the first instructors #35 certified in 2003. We think everyone should be able to carry not just the elite with lots of extra cash. All courses are BCA approved! PCSD has trained over 11,000 students !
Joe is: (POST certified Minnesota Board of Peace Officer Standards and Training) HR218 national carry. POST armed guard trainer, POST private investigator trainer, (IALEFI) International association of law enforcement instructor master instructor trained and a NRA certified instructor.






































































































We have many locations: Bloomington, Mayer, Waconia and Glencoe.

Wisconsin residents:
Plane Cents, LLC is offering the Minnesota multi-state to all Wisconsin residents. This course will qualify for the training needed to get a Wisconsin resident permit and 30+ states.

Plane Cents donates a portion of our profits to Sheriff departments who support permit
to carry and various charities doing work to help children in need.

We offer private gun training at any level for $40 per hour. For beginners and those who are struggling to figure out which gun to purchase, this is a great way to try out different guns and learn how to go to the range and practice instead of just turning money into noise.

Why Pay More?
Taking Your Permit to Carry Course Shouldn’t Break the Bank. How much should a Minnesota Permit to Carry course cost? The truth is, getting a permit to carry a firearm in Minnesota can be very expensive, and for some folks it can be too expensive, so they go unprotected.

Unlike several other states that only require that citizens be “law abiding” in order to carry a firearm, Minnesota requires that potential applicants attend a “Minnesota Permit to Carry a Firearm” course, conducted by an organization certified by the BCA. The cost for that course is left up to the individual training organization. One organization charges as much as $200 or more. At Plane Cents, LLC we believe that it’s your right to obtain a permit to carry a firearm, and that you shouldn’t be “priced out” of that right.

So what exactly do you get for $55 from PCSD? You’ll be taught all of the key things that will help keep you out of trouble in Minnesota, including the three key things that the state requires us to teach, including: Instruction in the fundamentals of pistol use; Instruction in the legal aspects of firearm possession, carry and use, including the rules governing the use of deadly force; and an actual shooting qualification. For a preview of the topics we’ll cover, check out our class primer. In addition to those topics, we’ll also provide you with the appropriate instruction and certificate that you’ll need if you’d like to apply for your Utah permit, you may also apply for Florida and Newhampshire which when combined with your Minnesota permit, will allow you to carry in 31 or more states. We do not make you meet at a motel for your class. We meet at sportsman's clubs, conference rooms and sometimes even my house. Oh I forgot Goose Lake Auto Parts -- you may think, a salvage yard? Well you have to see the lodge we meet in that belongs to the owners to believe it. If you can make one of these classes at Goose Lake, you will not regret it.

So what extra things are you taught by a training organization that charges $125 more than PCSD? Guess what? You get taught EXACTLY THE SAME THINGS. They won’t teach you about a secret 5th rule governing the use of deadly force that only they know about (here’s a hint, there isn’t one), and you won’t be taught about a 5th universal safety rule that they invented that’s worth the extra $125 just to hear about it.

About Our Web Site
One thing you’ll notice about our web site is that we like having a dialogue with our prospective and past students, including filling you in on our thoughts, and what we’ve been up to lately. We might not look as fancy as eBay, but then again, we’re not trying to sell you a Mercedes, or a piece of toast that has the image of Jesus on it. We’re just trying to provide a good product at a price that doesn’t break the bank. We might even occasionally miss the spell checker as we keep our website up to date (for example, we recently listed a class in “Boomington” instead of “Bloomington”, but we thought that one was actually kind of funny). Then again, if a misspelled word here or there really bothers you, we can direct you to an organization who will provide pretty good spelling and grammar for a mere $125 extra. It’s your choice, but we’re betting that the extra $125 would buy a lot of practice ammunition.

About Plane Cents, LLC
So you know by now that I'm a firearms instructor (to that end, I've had more than 200 hours of formal firearms training, and am Minnesota Board of "Peace Officer Standards and Training" (POST) Certified Range Qualifier), but that's just the tip of the iceberg. Like most of my students, my interests are far and wide. If you also share an interest in any of the topics below, I'd love to trade stories about our joint interests.

Obviously, I am not a writer or a web developer. I do the best I can myself and spend as little as I can on such services. It could be argued that I should hire it out, I don't know. I keep my overhead low and pass the savings on to you. A few instructors take shots at me personally and my web site regularly. They judge my classes that they have never attended. My classes are about you and my success proves that. If you want to take a course that will make you feel like your special you’ve come to the right place. Call any of my references listed on my web site. Or call me @ 612-327-3490.

About Joe:

We simply ask you to compare what we offer:

  1. A complete 6-8 hour BCA certified course using a combination of training materials including video, power point presentation, and many items you can feel and touch to help you understand equipment and principles
  2. Instructors who actually go to school a minimum of 5 days annually for defensive hand gun training.
  3. Licensed bail bond agent so we can be there to help if you are ever in need of those services. We will be there to help you through the process.
  4. We have been training students since 2003, within the first couple months of the bill passing in Minnesota.
  5. We have more than 12 defensive hand guns for you to borrow for qualification and to view.
  6. Lunch offered at every weekend class.
  7. Available for you to call 24/7 at 612-327-3490. Rarely will you get an answering machine.
  8. I have prominent instructors sit in and review my classes from time to time, if you want to ask them about the quality of my class content, call me and I will give you their contact info.
  9. Multi-state option includes application to: MN, AZ, Florida and more.

If you are looking for this type of value in these tough times, you came to the right place. You can take the money you save and put it toward a gun or ammo to practice. The reason we have trained so many students is referrals.


After the owner of Lakeshore Market, 21380 Highway 7 in Greenwood, Minnesota, was the victim of an attempted armed robbery in which he shot one of the assailants on May 20, 2010, at 10:45 p.m., he decided he needed to get his carry permit. He used Plane Cents, LLC to train he, his wife and two of his friends. I have trained many people that have actually used a gun in self defense. See link to story: See the video at my class.

Plane Cents has been visited many times in my classes by local law enforcement. The latest was Carver County's permit background investigator. As always flying colors.

Remember you can always bring anyone along with you free, they pay only if at the end they want the permit.



Why is PCSD worth the drive?
Here’s what you get from PCSD

• Available training for levels beginner to advanced street level self-defense hand gun training
• Classes in Bloomington, Waconia, Mayer and Glencoe and more locations coming.
• Private weekday and weekend classes including corporate discounts.
• Chance to see and handle a wide selection of top of the line carry guns.
• Presented by an instructor who has been training since 2003, who is a lifetime member at Front Site gun training institute a top facility and weekend classes include my wife who is also a certified instructor.
People come regularly from: Rochester, Wisconsin, St. Paul, Anoka, St. Cloud and as far away as Duluth to have their training done by Plane Cents, LLC. Why? Because someone told them to who also was trained by us.
There may be some strong language when demonstrating methods for controlling a life threatening situation, I always ask if this will offend anyone, if so it is not used.


NEW!! Private all day classes
9:00 am to 5:00 pm includes:
3 hours range work
Gun and ammo
Multi-state Permit course
$250 per person "even one on one"
Call to schedule 612-327-3490

Class registration and Payment

About us:

If you are looking for value in these tough times, you came to the right place at Plane Cents LLC. You can take the money you save and put it toward a gun or ammo to practice. The reason we have trained more students than any other single instructor out there is referrals. Click on the link below to be directed to our company web site. http://www.planecents.net or http://www.concealcarry.net
* There's a book called Minnesota Permit to Carry a Firearm Fundamentals by Michael Martin, which we (and most of the respected firearms instructors) personally believe is a great book.

Joe Penaz



Click on the link below to be directed to our company web site. http://www.guncarrypermit.com, http://www.planecents.net and http://www.concealcarry.net,

We now have free Ammo for the qualifying portion of the class. Go to http://www.guncarrypermit.com for details. We really want to do everything we can to help you afford to become a part of the Twin City Carry Course movement.

Week day private or small group skill builder classes.

Classes are good for all skill levels and for all people who want to learn real handgun proficiency needed for self defense. Great for those who want private one on one. Use .22LR or any hand gun you want I have over 20 guns to borrow. Call to set up a date 612-327-3490

Next step skill builder classes

These classes are for individuals who have a fair amount of hand gun time. You don't have to be a super shooter, but we will be doing exercises that involve moving while shooting, drawing from the holster and such. You need to be comfortable with hand guns first. We do allow you to use .22LR handguns to save on ammo cost as the skills you will learn are developmental skills that will transition to your carry gun as well. I have several semi-auto's in .22LR including 4 Glocks converted to .22LR with Advantage Arms conversions, that you can use. Instructors are graduates of Front Sight™ www.FrontSight.com and are very skilled shooters as well as instructors. Call me 612-327-3490 to schedule.



Plane Cents is the only training organization that has both Female and Male instructors who carry as part of every weekend class.

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Have questions? Visit our FAQ page to get answers!

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Plane Cents has been training people to shoot a gun since 1982!

If you want to carry in Minnesota, I am the guy just call my references.


Why do I carry a gun?

"When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act."

by Marko Kloos



Carry laws change frequently. You need to go to www.usacarry.com to get up-to-date information as to where your permit(s) allow you to carry. It is your sole responsibility to know the law.


A chance to try a gun free to help you chose your carry gun!
Choosing the right gun to carry is an important decision. Women especially need to try out a variety of guns for carry. Marcia carried 4 guns before she found one that she really likes and is comfortable with. We have a variety of guns for you to try to help you choose your carry handgun. You can rent guns at Bills Gun Shop (pretty expensive), or may be able to use a .22 or revolver through other instructors. No other instructor we're aware of offer the variety and quality of guns that we do. Just another reason to use Plane Cents for all your gun training needs. Ask other trainers what the options are for guns you can borrow at their class.


Bring 50 rounds of ammo, ear and eye protection, and the gun use is free! Due to our current inability to obtain ammunition, we can no longer offer ammunition for sale at our class. If you are unable to obtain ammunition for the gun you would like to try or for your own gun, just bring some .22LR ammunition and you can use one of our .22's for the qualification.


"Permit to Carry (MN)"

Be a part of the Twin City Carry Course movement
What ever you want to call it, we do it for less cost!
"Be your own Body Guard"


What former students say about PCSD:

"As a former United States Marine and California Police Officer I had the privilege and honor to be taught by some of the best tactical weapons and self-defense experts in the country when I was part of those organizations. The difference I believe, that makes an instructor stand out among all the others is their passion, intensity, and drive to continue to improve upon an already accomplished resume.

Joe, you are in that class of instructor as described above; your passion and energy is clearly evident in the way you conduct your class. Your desire to improve is apparent with your recent training at Front Sight. Thank you for putting this valuable class together giving people the opportunity to exercise their Constitutional Right."

Steve Porter

"I started carrying in 1964 and have been through several “Classes”; this is the first class that was informative and interesting. I am pleased to recommend Joe Penaz of Plane Cents Self-Defense to you for your training. If you have any questions please feel free to call me."

Duane Schroeder 952-545-5765

Joe is a competent, well spoken, and skilled instructor whom makes himself available to his students after the class via phone and email. I have seen this. Andrew Shapero former MADFI instructor.

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About our Instructors


Joe Penaz

Director of PCSD personal security services, NRA certified Instructor for the following courses: Personal Protection, Basic Pistol, Refuse To Be A Victim®; NRA Certified Range Officer, Minnesota BCA Certified; Utah DPS Certified; PCSD certified Permit to Carry Instructor; MADFI trained Instructor; FFL 01 holder for 25+ years; FFL 02, 07, and SOT holder; AACFI-trained,Certified DNR gun safety instructor, Trained @ Front sight Gun Institute.

Marcia Penaz

NRA certified Instructor Refuse To Be A Victim®; PCSD certified Permit to Carry Instructor, Certified DNR gun safety instructor.

Brandon Penaz

PCSD certified Permit to Carry Instructor,volunteer DNR gun safety instructor, Trained @ front sight gun institute.

"Be your own Body Guard"

Gun Stop in Minnetonka -- (952-474-4570), and talk to Larry. I have been doing courses for their customers since the bill was passed. In fact I was the first instructor to serve their customers with permit to carry (mn) training.

I also train customers of Little Crow Sports in Hutchinson (320-587-9829).

Cabin Fever in Victoria, MN. See Jeff for your gun needs.
1550 Arboretum Blvd.
Victoria, MN
(952) 443-2022

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Contact Information

Plane Cents
8775 Airport Road
Waconia, MN 55387

Phone: (612) 327-3490
Fax: (413) 487-3199
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