Self Defense
Why
Pay More?
Taking
Your Permit to Carry Course Shouldn’t Break the Bank.
How much should a Minnesota Permit to Carry course cost? The truth is, getting
a permit to carry a firearm in Minnesota can be very expensive, and
for some folks it can be too expensive, so they go unprotected.
Unlike several other states that only require that citizens be “law abiding” in order to carry a firearm, Minnesota requires that potential applicants attend a “Minnesota Permit to Carry a Firearm” course, conducted by an organization certified by the BCA. The cost for that course is left up to the individual training organization. One organization charges as much as $200 or more. At Plane Cents, LLC we believe that it’s your right to obtain a permit to carry a firearm, and that you shouldn’t be “priced out” of that right.
So what exactly do you get for $75 from PCSD? You’ll be taught all of the key things that will help keep you out of trouble in Minnesota, including the three key things that the state requires us to teach, including: Instruction in the fundamentals of pistol use; Instruction in the legal aspects of firearm possession, carry and use, including the rules governing the use of deadly force; and an actual shooting qualification. For a preview of the topics we’ll cover, check out our class primer. In addition to those topics, we’ll also provide you with the appropriate instruction and certificate that you’ll need if you’d like to apply for your Utah permit, you may also apply for Florida and Newhampshire which when combined with your Minnesota permit, will allow you to carry in 31 or more states. We do not make you meet at a motel for your class. We meet at sportsman's clubs, conference rooms and sometimes even my house. Oh I forgot Goose Lake Auto Parts -- you may think, a salvage yard? Well you have to see the lodge we meet in that belongs to the owners to believe it. If you can make one of these classes at Goose Lake, you will not regret it.
So what extra things are you taught by a training organization that charges $125 more than PCSD? Guess what? You get taught EXACTLY THE SAME THINGS. They won’t teach you about a secret 5th rule governing the use of deadly force that only they know about (here’s a hint, there isn’t one), and you won’t be taught about a 5th universal safety rule that they invented that’s worth the extra $125 just to hear about it.
About Our Web Site
One thing you’ll notice about our web site is that we like having a dialogue
with our prospective and past students, including filling you in on our thoughts,
and what we’ve been up to lately. We might not look as fancy as eBay,
but then again, we’re not trying to sell you a Mercedes, or a piece of
toast that has the image of Jesus on it. We’re just trying to provide
a good product at a price that doesn’t break the bank. We might even
occasionally miss the spell checker as we keep our website up to date (for
example, we recently listed a class in “Boomington” instead of “Bloomington”,
but we thought that one was actually kind of funny). Then again, if a misspelled
word here or there really bothers you, we can direct you to an
organization who will provide pretty good spelling and grammar for a mere $125
extra. It’s
your choice, but we’re betting that the extra $125 would buy a lot of
practice ammunition.
About
Plane Cents, LLC
So you know by now that I'm a firearms instructor (to that end, I've had more
than 200 hours of formal firearms training, and am Minnesota Board of "Peace
Officer Standards and Training" (POST) Certified Range Qualifier), but
that's just the tip of the iceberg. Like most of my students, my interests
are far and wide. If you also share an interest in any of the topics below,
I'd love to trade stories about our joint interests.
Obviously, I am not a writer or a web developer. I do the best I can myself and spend as little as I can on such services. It could be argued that I should hire it out, I don't know. I keep my overhead low and pass the savings on to you. A few instructors take shots at me personally and my web site regularly. They judge my classes that they have never attended. My classes are about you and my success proves that. If you want to take a course that will make you feel like your special you’ve come to the right place. Call any of my references listed on my web site. Or call me @ 612-327-3490.
About Joe:
We simply ask you to compare what we offer:
If you are looking for this type of value in these tough times, you came to the right place. You can take the money you save and put it toward a gun or ammo to practice. The reason we have trained so many students is referrals.
Click on the link below to be directed to our company web site. http://www.guncarrypermit.com, http://www.planecents.net and http://www.concealcarry.net
We now have free Ammo for the qualifying portion of the class. Go to www.guncarrypermit.com for details. We really want to do everything we can to help you afford to become a part of the Twin City Carry Course movement.
NEW!! Private all day classes
9:00 am to 5:00 pm includes:
3 hours range work
Gun and ammo
Multi-state Permit course
Lunch
$250 per person "even one on one"
Call to schedule 612-327-3490
4 pack, 4 students for $225 for a multi-state permit.
$55 renewals and $55 women yes $55 for all women
Just
call me at 612-327-3490. I have trained well over 4000 students, most
of which were referrals.
Joe is a competent, well spoken, and skilled instructor whom makes himself available to his students after the class via phone and email. I have seen this. Andrew Shapero former MADFI instructor.
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This is a real sad story about a guy who just does not get it. You do not have to read this if you do not want to. This is just something I have to do for all the good instructors out there, and there are a lot of them!
Why Is Joel Rosenberg trashing out so many other instructors?
There is a instructor named Joel Rosenberg (Twincitiescarry course ™) who is a permit to carry instructor certified by MADFI, he claims to have trade marked twin cities carry, when I asked him to prove it, because I was unable to verify that, he never replied. So he went on a rampage against me and any instructor that used the key words "twin city or cities carry" stating that they ripped him off and he owned that phrase. I was using those in my key words years before he did. That term is too generic and impossible to trade mark when I researched it, if it was in fact ever trade marked trademarked by him! There were also many other instructors doing the same, that is using that term in their web sites. He purchased my name Joepenaz.com, yes he did! That is wrong and unethical! He tries to use it against me with his internet troll work. This is just wrong. This is a undisputable fact. He has been tormenting and bashing me and other instructors with parody web sites and his personal forum, but he has been focusing on me, as he is obsessed with me. His antics and unprofessional behavior has gotten him removed from several certifying organizations except MADFI that told me they have no right to stop him. Funny thing is all the other organizations he claims to be multi certified through (and that is just untrue, he is only certified though Madfi, that we could find) let him go, yes they gave him the boot. They felt what he was doing was wrong and unethical. He puts cards and information that mocks me and other instructors at guns stores, I have some of the cards he left at one such store mocking me. Can you believe this? I recently found a 9X11 full page copy of his parody site mocking me that I took down at one of the gun stores I have my class information at. This is so childish. This is what he does, he makes fun of law enforcement, local politicians and instructors for sport as it entertains him. I have a copy of a statement proving he said this on his forum once. Do you want to take a course from a guy who does this? No instructor I know of endorses his behavior. He is not welcome at any instructor meetings or breakfast meetings that we the other instructors are welcome to. He feels that his classes are worth $200, who knows I certainly have not sat in at one of them maybe it is, but he has also never been to one of mine. He has not attended any other of the instructors classes that he trashes out either. I challenge you to find one other instructor who does what he does, trash out other instructors? You can’t he is all by himself. When you read the crap he puts out on the web ask yourself, why does he trash out his competition rather than explaining why his class is worth 2 or more times anyone else’s? He can’t. He just says he is the Man!! I have held hundreds of classes and thousands of students have sat through my classes. He does classes of 2 or 3 once a week if that. I say this because this is not about money. He does so few student’s a week (call the ranges and asked them they will tell you how few people he brings in with him) that no one even considers him competition. This is about what is right and wrong. What he is doing is wrong. He even monitors my site and publishes spelling errors, get real. Call any instructor and ask them what they think of Joel, you will be amazed what they say. I have a file 1” thick filled with his work for our records. No real business man or company I know of has found bashing your competition a valid business strategy unless they can't support the cost or quality of their product. Before you take a course from this guy (Twincitycarry course ™) call around and find out what people think of him or come to one of the instructor's carry breakfast’s that are scheduled on MNguntalk.com. No one, I mean no one listens to him anymore, his forum lost so much traffic he shut it down. Every one went to Mnguntalk.com. If you do not choose me, do not choose an instructor who behaves this way please. Go on the internet and visit his childish parody sites filled with lies about me and other instructors, then try to find one other instructor who does what he does? There are a lot of good instructors out there, support them! The good instructors do not have to trash out their competition. He has hurt the instructor community, the carry bill and most of all him self with this behavior. Even the BCA considers what he does is wrong call them, as many people have and ask them. For him it is all about the money, for PCSD it all about value and you! My wife and I have been doing this since the start of the carry permit in minnesota. We are not about money, that is proven in our pricing. I make mistakes and so do other instructors no one is perfect but we do not need some one like Joel ridiculing us for things like spelling errors on our web sites. People who do what he does, mocking and ridiculing them do so because they they are bully's. Many instructors were afraid to say anything about him fearing he would start doing it to them. But finally he had no one left to support him and every one turned on him. He has been ripping Bills gun shop for years why? Because they won't sell his book. I have Michael Martins book available for cost at my classes at my cost, but I do not make every one spend extra money to attend the class so just to cover the cost of the book. Some people want the book but just can't afford it. Call me if you want a suggestion in your area for a good instructor if I am too far out for you I will have a suggestion for you. I work with all the other instructors not against them. I thank all the thousands of students who have seen through the crap this guy puts up about me and other instructors, and still came to my class then refereeing people to me, it is you who have helped me grow the numbers of law abiding citizens who want to exercise their right to carry. Joel look in the mirror, real hard some day, there is a lot to ridicule in just your reflection.
Read more about PCSD @ http://www.guncarrypermit.com